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Pro Diagnostic Solutions
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2017-06-02T09:34:52Z

Hi
Anyone had this fault after Mini R60 DME swap - 'PROTECTION AGAINST TAMPERING SWT: ENGINE-SPEED LIMITATION, STAGE 2'
I had this same fault sometime ago in a different Mini, but support were not able to resolve it for me, resulting in the customer buying a new DME from BMW which obviously fixed the original fault with the car.
I now have the same fault exhibiting its self in this Mini, is there any fix for this?

original DME 8625068
doner DME 8600124

there was no issue reading ISN, writing ISN or programming and coding this car?

Thanks

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Levanime
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2017-06-03T05:07:04Z

Strange, they should be compatible,

https://www.etkbmw.com/b...control+unit+DME/8625068

did u check power classes?

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2017-06-03T05:20:13Z

Originally Posted by: Levanime

Strange, they should be compatible,

https://www.etkbmw.com/b...control+unit+DME/8625068

did u check power classes?

both DME's are from the same type of Mini, same model, same engine etc...i'm 100% sure this is an issue with autohex adapting this DME, as i've had the same fault before, but support were unable to resolve it.

what determines the power class of a dme...as this is from the same car with same engine...i ask because this info as it may help me to find the correct dme if indeed this current doner dme is the wrong power class

power class cannot be changed in DME after 10 operating hours????

Edited by user 2017-06-03T05:54:05Z | Reason: Not specified

Gbyleveldt
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2017-06-04T15:39:58Z

I've had this before on an N20 ecu (not the exact fault code) but the gist was the same. Only way I got it sorted was doing a full clone of the ecu.

Pro Diagnostic Solutions
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2017-06-04T16:35:52Z

I'm not sure if MEV1722 can be cloned???

Levanime
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2017-06-04T22:12:47Z

yes, it can be cloned

Pro Diagnostic Solutions
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2017-06-05T01:40:36Z

Originally Posted by: Levanime

yes, it can be cloned

ktag?

Levanime
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2017-06-05T04:17:49Z

yes

Autohex_II_BMW
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2017-06-06T14:01:40Z

How you are sure that the problem is from Autohex II?
Autohex could change the ISN , it could code it and flash it. this is it's job and it did it well.
Now, you should understand that there are thousands of options stored in DME EEPROM, not only ISN and coding. there are many options that cannot be changed by ordinary coding.
A solution for your case: clone the entire EEPROM.

BMWZG
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2017-06-06T14:31:55Z

#10

'PROTECTION AGAINST TAMPERING SWT: ENGINE-SPEED LIMITATION, STAGE 2' - that means You need reapir FSC code for this engine ( Sweeping Technologies ), without them engine will work but car will have speed limit.
Second solution is clone full Eeprom because FCS code is stored in Eeprom .

Tibibond
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2017-06-07T05:21:24Z

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is there no way autohex could add clone function to boot mode tool, or just the possibility to read/write entire ecu? now it can do boot mode so i can t see why this would not be possible. just as the cas replacement function?

Autohex_II_BMW
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2017-06-07T05:43:42Z

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you can swap complete eeprom from old DME/DDE to the donor ECU using ISN boot mode software .Its available in the advanced option in boot mode.

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2017-06-08T08:33:56Z

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Originally Posted by: Autohex_II_BMW

How you are sure that the problem is from Autohex II?
Autohex could change the ISN , it could code it and flash it. this is it's job and it did it well.
Now, you should understand that there are thousands of options stored in DME EEPROM, not only ISN and coding. there are many options that cannot be changed by ordinary coding.
A solution for your case: clone the entire EEPROM.

Q.How you are sure that the problem is from Autohex II?

A.it has been confirmed that Autohex cannot copy the eeprom, so it could not be adapted properly. all other jobs worked well with autohex

cloned complete dme job done, due to time constraints i could not check power class etc, maybe next time.

many thanks to support for there help

Justin
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2017-06-08T11:13:58Z

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Hi

What did you use to clone it in the end?

Pro Diagnostic Solutions
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2017-06-08T12:59:12Z

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Originally Posted by: Justin

Hi

What did you use to clone it in the end?

KTAG

Levanime
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2017-06-08T17:30:53Z

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Originally Posted by: Pro Diagnostic Solutions

Q.How you are sure that the problem is from Autohex II?

A.it has been confirmed that Autohex cannot copy the eeprom, so it could not be adapted properly. all other jobs worked well with autohex

cloned complete dme job done, due to time constraints i could not check power class etc, maybe next time.

many thanks to support for there help

have you tried advanced mode in boot mode software?
i have copied full eeprom content several times on different dmes

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2017-06-09T06:25:33Z

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Originally Posted by: Levanime

Originally Posted by: Pro Diagnostic Solutions

Q.How you are sure that the problem is from Autohex II?

A.it has been confirmed that Autohex cannot copy the eeprom, so it could not be adapted properly. all other jobs worked well with autohex

cloned complete dme job done, due to time constraints i could not check power class etc, maybe next time.

many thanks to support for there help

have you tried advanced mode in boot mode software?
i have copied full eeprom content several times on different dmes

this DME not supported
i also wanted to add that in 'diagnostics' if you choose R60, you get 'unsupported model' but if you read it as R56 it will work

Edited by user 2017-06-09T08:26:49Z | Reason: Not specified

Skitszo1
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2017-06-16T08:12:27Z

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I,ve got very similar fault on a mini R56 2011 model, DME7620987 i was fitting a second hand Ecu with the same part number and software number.

, read ISN from ecu and changed it in Cas, done encoding and car starts and runs OK, but have fault code

3044 PROTECTION AGAINST TAMPERING SWT: ENGINE-SPEED LIMITATION, STAGE 1
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Levanime
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2017-06-16T22:18:32Z

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as mentioned above, return your CAS ISN back and do full clone with KTAG

Tibibond
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2017-06-22T05:05:40Z

#20

since both mini r56 and mini r60 are equipped with cas3, would not be the easiest way to chance isn in cas? i ve done this in x6m e71 with cas3 and 6hp and car runs fine.

this is just an idea